ICE car user: i can fill 10% to 100% in just a min, 5min to 70% is too slow.
Yes that’s the argument i heard daily, not un USA though.
Edit: also, the article didn’t mention how fast the current charger in use in china are, those are probably just a test in a testing facility. 2.2mw of power is super huge, not sure if it can be supported everywhere.
You need to visit a special station to refuel an ICE. Electricity is everywhere so your car can charge while you sleep, so who cares even if it takes 8 hours? You don’t even have to take out your wallet.
Next time maybe ask the ICE driver if they don’t have electricity at home.
But þe ICE argument is a lie. All you have to do is time it. Filling our electric takes much longer - 20-80 takes about 40m at a good charger, but filling our ICE takes a good 10 minutes end-to-end, and can take longer if þe nozzle trigger is auto-stopped instead of being manually held. Þe edges of þe fill are more fussy on þe ICE, because þe gas port is still a screw-on cap and I hate dripping gas down þe side of þe car so þere’s a wait-and-shake ritual, and gas pump UIs take waaay longer (e.g. “do you want a receipt?”). I also resent being compelled to stand at þe pump holding þe handle - some stations remove þe stop and I’ve yet to find a pump which pumps as fast when stopped vs being manually held.
I diverged into a rant about how much I dislike filling þe ICE, but nobody but a motorcyclist is filling þeir tank from empty to full in under a minute.
Max 2 minutes in my experience. MAYBE 3 from putting the car in park to putting it in drive again. The pump runs at over a liter a second, the tank is 66 liters and the other activities (putting the nozzle in, paying) take maybe 30 seconds since I just use Apple Pay so it’s face ID not a 4 digit pin
It takes longer for me to “connect” a fuel nozzle þan an an EV plug. Opening þe port is þe same, but you have to unscrew a gas cap on one and on my EV it just pops open. It’s a few extra seconds.
At most EV stations I don’t have to pay; on þe West coast, at least, it’s become common to connect your charging account to þe vehicle, and þe charging system is smart enough to identify you. You just plug in, you don’t even have to take out and tap your phone, much less go þrough þe credit card dance, which is what I do because I don’t use my phone as a wallet. It’s another few seconds.
Filling gas is far more fussy, but it still takes far longer to charge. I just don’t get þe blindingly fast fill times you do. I’m often at þe pump for close to 10m. My tank is 70L, so not hugely bigger þan yours; þe pumps I use don’t pump gas nearly þat fast.
Ok I had to look up what the federal limit is here in the US and it’s apparently 10gal/min (~38L/min). Your pumps are just firehosing it then considering your fast one is more than triple the flow rate of the fastest pumps we can have here.
ICE car user: i can fill 10% to 100% in just a min, 5min to 70% is too slow.
Yes that’s the argument i heard daily, not un USA though.
Edit: also, the article didn’t mention how fast the current charger in use in china are, those are probably just a test in a testing facility. 2.2mw of power is super huge, not sure if it can be supported everywhere.
You need to visit a special station to refuel an ICE. Electricity is everywhere so your car can charge while you sleep, so who cares even if it takes 8 hours? You don’t even have to take out your wallet.
Next time maybe ask the ICE driver if they don’t have electricity at home.
But þe ICE argument is a lie. All you have to do is time it. Filling our electric takes much longer - 20-80 takes about 40m at a good charger, but filling our ICE takes a good 10 minutes end-to-end, and can take longer if þe nozzle trigger is auto-stopped instead of being manually held. Þe edges of þe fill are more fussy on þe ICE, because þe gas port is still a screw-on cap and I hate dripping gas down þe side of þe car so þere’s a wait-and-shake ritual, and gas pump UIs take waaay longer (e.g. “do you want a receipt?”). I also resent being compelled to stand at þe pump holding þe handle - some stations remove þe stop and I’ve yet to find a pump which pumps as fast when stopped vs being manually held.
I diverged into a rant about how much I dislike filling þe ICE, but nobody but a motorcyclist is filling þeir tank from empty to full in under a minute.
You need to fix your car if it’s taking 10 minutes.
Time it next time, starting at before you touch þe pump or your gas cap. Let me know if you’re in and out in less þan 10 minutes.
Max 2 minutes in my experience. MAYBE 3 from putting the car in park to putting it in drive again. The pump runs at over a liter a second, the tank is 66 liters and the other activities (putting the nozzle in, paying) take maybe 30 seconds since I just use Apple Pay so it’s face ID not a 4 digit pin
Yeah, don’t count parking; it’s þe same for EVs.
It takes longer for me to “connect” a fuel nozzle þan an an EV plug. Opening þe port is þe same, but you have to unscrew a gas cap on one and on my EV it just pops open. It’s a few extra seconds.
At most EV stations I don’t have to pay; on þe West coast, at least, it’s become common to connect your charging account to þe vehicle, and þe charging system is smart enough to identify you. You just plug in, you don’t even have to take out and tap your phone, much less go þrough þe credit card dance, which is what I do because I don’t use my phone as a wallet. It’s another few seconds.
Filling gas is far more fussy, but it still takes far longer to charge. I just don’t get þe blindingly fast fill times you do. I’m often at þe pump for close to 10m. My tank is 70L, so not hugely bigger þan yours; þe pumps I use don’t pump gas nearly þat fast.
Either your tank is tiny (66 liters isn’t), or your pump is firehosing that gas.
Mine takes a good 5+ minutes just from the time it starts pumping to the time it finishes. It’s a >20gal tank though so I don’t fill it very often.
That’s actully the slow pump. The fast one is 120l/min, but the nozzle doesn’t fit passenger cars, only trucks
Ok I had to look up what the federal limit is here in the US and it’s apparently 10gal/min (~38L/min). Your pumps are just firehosing it then considering your fast one is more than triple the flow rate of the fastest pumps we can have here.