simple webdav server that’s compatible with the Nextcloud sync clients

Now THAT is interesting - when I was last experimenting with Nextcloud I learned that the files part is just a webdav server. Unfortunately I also learned that they have a bit of a handshake before the webdav so the client wouldn’t work with my apache2 webdav server. Thanks!

That seems to be the case. Really sucks that the documentation at nextcloud.com directs people to the AIO. I guess they hope that if you have a bad time trying to install your own server you might buy their cloud service.

Yeah, I can see how someone that has “grown up with it” could be happy. But as and experienced sysadmin coming at it for the first time - the documentation is a bit lacking.

Because an android client is one of my requirements. I can get files from SMB on Android using any number of file managers, but I can’t map a SMB share to a filesystem so files are available for an app to use.

Yes! There used to be a little utility that could map a SMB share in Android, but that got killed years ago.

So, use something else

That’s why I’m here - looking for suggestions

like Seafile.

I’ll have another look - you’re not the only person to suggest it. My recollection is that it seemed to be old and not really maintained.

I’ve never used the AIO image. I’ve heard it’s weird.

It does seem to be. So, I find it weird that the “core” documentation leads a new user to installing AIO.

You could also try OpenCloud, which is a Go rewrite of ownCloud.

Sounds interesting - thanks.

You need to understand the difference between a docker run command, and detaching to run a container in the background. Just running it with ‘run’ keeps it in the foreground.

Yes, I understand this. I was just highlighting that it’s not a great experience for a new user to follow the instructions to setup a server and be left with it running in the foreground.

For the passphrase issue: https://github.com/nextcloud/all-in-one/discussions/1786

Thanks! This should get me past my current hurdle so I can do some more testing. Again - not a great experience to have to come to a forum to get help to find a passphrase. I’m pretty sure I didn’t miss any steps?

Lastly, if you’re not familiar with containers, and this is a single purpose machine, you’d be better off just running the bare project on the host. If there’s no need for containerization, just skip it.

I’m familiar with containers, but think they’re overused. Stupid little things that are a single Python script (for example) shipping as a Docker image! But, I thought Nextcloud was complex enough to be worthy of a container? This is not a single purpose machine, but I’m an old, retired, sysadmin - I have no problem running a few different servers on the same host.

Are you referring to the “Archive” Community Project installation method?

Use docker or podman compose https://hub.docker.com/_/nextcloud/

I could do that - I guess I was just pointing out that someone coming to Nextcloud and following the install instructions does not have a great experience.

Nextcloud does not need a domain. Ip is fine.

So, their documentation is wrong?

https://github.com/nextcloud/all-in-one?tab=readme-ov-file#can-i-use-an-ip-address-for-nextcloud-instead-of-a-domain

Again - not a great experience for a first time user.

Almost a chuckle

And, F-Droid shows apps that were installed from the Play Store.

Of course! It’s amazing how this stuff just flows from the keyboard when you’re typing in a shell window, but feels awkward when typing in a Lemmy comment.

grep -i fried < menu

Protecting children would mean knowing which users are children, which would mean knowing the actual legal identity of every user of the platform. It’s never going to happen.

I assume “data” includes your container configuration files in this strategy?

It should be obvious from the context here, but you don’t just need geographic separation, you need “everything” separation. If you have all your data in the cloud, and you want disaster recovery capability, then you need at least two independent cloud providers.

I’m a little determined to stick with Python because I feel that I should - everyone should be able to code Python :-)

The main problem I have with it is the complex, relaxed, data structures. I’m finding that the type() command in interactive mode is helping a lot. I’m having lots of moments like - “Ah, I’m not down to the dict yet, I’m still in the list…”

Thank you for your detailed response. It’s a bit much for my proposed “project”. I won’t be using any libraries (other than built-in python json etc.). I’ve prototyped most of it and it’s currently about 15 lines of code. Literally one call to lemmy, a search to Musicbrainz and a playlist update to listenbrainz. I know it will grow lots as I make it a bit more robust, but it’s still very small.

Yes, I’m working on it now. Struggling with basic stuff like pulling values out of the json returned by the API when I ask for a list of posts. Python really does not click for me, but I’m determined, for now, to keep at it. An the RSS feed seems like a much easier (than what…?) way to just get new posts with each run - thank you!

I find Python difficult - no idea why, it just doesn’t feel right. I’ve tried a few times but never been able to do anything useful with it - that’s why it’s not in my list above. It does seem though that my proposed project, and development “style”, is best suited to Python. Maybe it’s time to try again.