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  • HiddenLayer555@lemmy.mltoProgrammer Humor@lemmy.mlProgrammers then and now
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    2 days ago

    I get what this is saying but on the other hand…

    Programmers now:

    💪 Can spin up a minimum viable product in a day

    💪 Writes web applications that handle millions or even billions of requests per second

    💪 Remote code execution and memory related vulnerabilities are rarer than ever now

    💪 Can send data across the world with sub 1 second latency

    💪 The same PCIe interface is now 32x faster (16x PICe 1 was 8GB/s, while PCIe 6 is 256GB/s)

    💪 The same wireless bands now have more throughput due to better radio protocols

    💪 Writes applications that scale across the over 100 cores of modern top of the line processors

    💪 JIT and garbage collection techniques have improved to the point where they have a nearly imperceptible performance impact in the majority of use cases

    💪 Most bugs are caught by static analysis and testing frameworks before release

    💪 Codebases are worked on by thousands of people at the same time

    💪 Functional programming, which is arguably far less bug prone, is rapidly gaining traction as a paradigm

    💪 Far more emphasis on immutability to the point where many languages have it as the default

    💪 Virtual machines can be seamlessly transferred from one computer to another while they’re running

    💪 Modern applications can be used by people anywhere in the world regardless of language, even things that were very difficult to do in the past like mirroring the entire interface to allow an application that was written for left to right languages to support right to left

    💪 Accessibility features allow people who are blind, paralyzed, or have other disabilities to use computers just as well as anyone else

    Just wanted to provide come counter examples because I’m not a huge fan of the “programmers are worse than they were back in the 80s” rethoric. While programmers today are more reliant on automated tools, I really disagree that programmers are less capable in general than they were in the past.










  • LLMs can’t even stay on topic when specifically being asked to solve one problem.

    This happens to me all the damn time:

    I paste a class that references some other classes which I have already tested to be working, my problem is in a specific method that doesn’t directly call on any of the other classes. I tell the LLM specifically which method is not working, I also tell it that I have tested all the other methods and they work as intended (complete with comments documenting what they’re supposed to do). I then ask the LLM to only focus on the method I have specified, and it still goes on about “have you implemented all the other classes this class references? Here’s my shitty implementation of those classes instead.”

    So then I paste all the classes that the one I’m asking about depends on, reiterate that all of them have been tested and are working, tell the LLM which method has the problem again, and it still decides that my problem must be in the other classes and starts “fixing” them which 9 out of 10 times is just rearranging the code that I already wrote and fucking up the organisation that I had designed.

    It’s somewhat useful for searching for well-known example code using natural language, i.e. “How do I open a network socket using Rust,” or if your problem is really simple. Maybe it’s just the specific LLM I use, but in my experience it can’t actually problem solve better than humans.