I ran into a similar problem with snapshots of a forum and email server – if there are scheduled emails when you take the snapshot they get sent out again if you create a new test server from the snapshot. And similarly for the forum.

I’m not sure what the solution is either. The emails are sent via an SMTP so it’s not as simple as disabling email (ports, firewall, etc.) on the new test server.

Doesn’t that mean that docker containers use up much more resources since you’re installing numerous instances & versions of each program like mumble and leftpad?

Doesn’t that mean that docker containers use up much more resources since you’re installing numerous instances & versions of each program like PHP?

It seems like docker would be heavy on resources since it installs & runs everything (mysql, nginx, etc.) numerous times (once for each container), instead of once globally. Is that wrong?

Instead of setting up one nginx for multiple sites you run one nginx per site and have the settings for that as part of the site repository.

Doesn’t that require a lot of resources since you’re running (mysql, nginx, etc.) numerous times (once for each container), instead of once globally?

Or, per your comment below:

Since the base image is static, and config is per container, one image can be used to run multiple containers. So if you have a postgres image, you can run many containers on that image. And specify different config for each instance.

You’d only have two instances of postgres, for example, one for all docker containers and one global/server-wide? Still, that doubles the resources used no?

It seems like docker would be heavy on resources since it installs & runs everything (mysql, nginx, etc.) numerous times (once for each container), instead of once globally. Is that wrong?

Hmm, I watched the Oxygen video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7yae8GvpPVo where they build a webpage and it doesn’t seem weird to me. As a Squarespace user, it seems more familiar to me than the Gutenberg editor. For example, setting the spacing of two side-by-side elements with Gutenberg seemed really strange. They were spaced really far apart without an obvious way to reduce the spacing.

proelements

Interesting! That looks like a completely free version of Elementor Pro. It looks like it’s not on the official Wordpress plugins site https://wordpress.org/plugins/search/PRO+Elements/ though. I read that makes it more risky.

Yeah, that’s similar to my conclusions as well. What would you recommend?

I covered that in the OP. It requires coding ability for anything other than a simple blog.

Thanks!

I covered that in the links in the OP. It’s extremely limited. I didn’t find it useful.

I’m not sure what you even want “static gen” for?

Speed, security, free hosting.

Redline the cheapest option until it catches fire.

It’s an important business website that would have severe consequences if it went down during traffic spikes (which it does get).

Why are you worried about your site going down during traffic surge? Unless you’re running a critical service, there is no need to worry about this too much if it’s just your personal sites.

Because it’s an important business website that would have severe consequences if it went down during traffic spikes (which it does get).

With proper caching, your personal site can even tank traffics from reddit frontpage on a $5/mo vps.

Yeah, I’m using Cloudflare, and I saw that Wordpress has a built-in caching option, but I couldn’t find any info on how well that protects sites from traffic surges.

consider hosting it on platforms with autoscaling support such as netlify.

Yeah but I need an SSG with the same capabilities as Squarespace to do that, and as mentioned in the OP, that doesn’t seem to exist.

I’d recommend Statamic

I looked at the demo and it looks like a very simple text editor to make blogs.

Thanks for your input.

wordpress.com’s hosting is pretty affordable.

It’s more expensive than Squarespace which is a main reason I chose Squarespace in the first place. I created a test site today to experiment with Wordpress and it seems that Wordpress has as much or more functionality than Squarespace, but much of it is hidden behind 3rd party addons, which may or may not be free. And you basically have to look up articles for “how to do x on Wordpress”, whereas with Squarespace it’s build-in and easier to accomplish.

So I think for people starting out, Wordpress is harder to use since you don’t even know what it’s capable of.

Divi is more expensive than Oxygen, so if I use something other than Gutenberg it will probably be Oxygen.

Since you posted this into a self-hosting community…

I have two other websites hosted on a $5 Hetzner server (that counts as self-hosted right?). I’ve been considering adding a Wordpress, Grav, or static site to it. But as mentioned in the OP, I have to worry about the site going down if it gets a traffic surge, so I’m thinking it would be safer and similarly/more affordable to host a Wordpress site with Hostinger or GreenGeeks. Am I wrong?

Grab a Raspberry Pi, slap nginx proxy manager and ddclient into it, and point your domain to your home IP.

I’m not likely to do that, for multiple reasons.

I don’t know what you’re doing and what you’re really asking.

It doesn’t sound like you read the OP.

You want a static site? Hugo or jekyll.

As I said, I was unable to find a theme that has all the design features of a builder like Squarespace. So to make a professional website with an SSG seems to require coding knowledge.

There are options for contact forms but it will require additional setup.

Yes, I mentioned that. Many of them are limited or costly:

Some of them use Netlify forms https://www.netlify.com/platform/core/forms/ - 100 submissions per site /month ($19+ when exceeded). https://docs.netlify.com/accounts-and-billing/billing-faq/

Hugo’s Piko theme uses FormSubmit.io (free) or Fabform.io ($5/mo). But I haven’t tested that to understand how well it works and why/how it’s free.

Hugo’s Tella theme uses getform.io – https://github.com/opera7133/tella/issues/63 (50/mo).

250/mo for free and $8/mo for unlimited with https://web3forms.com/ is the best I’ve seen so far (besides the completely free one which I’m not sure about).

I haven’t seen any of them mention using an SMTP.

It was a firewall issue. I disabled my firewall and it works.

Nginx is running in a container

I don’t think it is. On my other machine it’s running in the docker container, but not this one.

Using serverIP:5870 has the same result as using listmonk.mysite.com:5870. It loads a broken page https://i.stack.imgur.com/gIy4A.jpg with broken links. IE: the URLs are http://localhost:9000/subscription/form.