Got any examples? I found that Purism and Framework have them, are there others on the market right now?

I don’t know if I should “come” just yet O-O

Fully agreed, though I must say this, if you truly believe in the spirit of free software and, let’s also be honest and add, can afford not to bend for the convenience of others (maybe you get funded through donations and/or grants), then you have the opportunity to make a piece of software so good, be it application or library, that it’ll be hard for competition to come up with something better and proprietary, that’s how it is for those instances where companies were sued for using them and not providing the source, e.g. Linux and John Deere is the last I remember.
It is that nature of copyleft that the more it spreads, the more it will enable for a culture shift, when people are faced with the inevitable conflict of the idea of keeping everything behind closed doors and not being allowed to if they want to take the easy way out, they might give it an actual thought or they’ll try to be unfair and use without giving back, showing their true greedy colours. I’m not a purist by any means, as much as I’d like to, but that is the kind of world I’d like to live in

Ok that’s good, I was thinking that since Rossman had thrown the term around many times in the video

Interesting, I understand where they’re coming from, but as others have said, I still feel like it’s shady to keep calling it “open source” when open source is already well defined.
I think they have a noble mission, yet I can’t really say I like their means. Maybe in that “finding a middle ground”, since they’re mostly making consumer software, a lot of that payment part could have been covered by simply providing their releases under a payment on the app distribution channels (Play Store, their website, others?), most people that would pay would do so to avoid going through hoops to get the app for free through other means. That way they could have afforded to be actually open source. Maybe it wouldn’t be as effective though, I can’t know for sure, at the end of the day it’s a battle of ideals

Oi mate, you got a loicense for that dick?

About the part on SaaS, the outcry is solely because the licences used by those projects weren’t approved neither by OSI or the FSF, they have clauses that specifically affect the economic aspect, and that can never fit in with either movement, but it is exactly that problem that the software authors want to tackle, preventing big corporations that already have the means to deliver a large scale service based on their software from making even more money than they already have, even if those corporations published possible modifications, the author would benefit little, because they most likely won’t have the infrastructure to run it on at the same scale and profiting from it.

Hot take: the real issue there is that those authors clearly don’t care for free software, because if they did, they’d have started off with AGPL or the like, instead they choose MIT exactly because of the possible economic prospect for themselves, when at some point they could implement vendor lock-in by baiting the users into believing that it was a community-run project at the start. Don’t get me wrong, they deserve to be paid for what they do, and corporations dropping by to profit from all that hard work feels wrong (but not illegal, and so it is fair), but exploiting the visibility and help of the community to reach popularity and credibility and eventually going private is a major dick move

Last I heard about was it when it was officially launched months back.
I gave it a try, it was immediately noticeable that it was worse than VSCode for me, so I just dropped it, besides, I still don’t understand the appeal of an app that still has to grow, but is just a sister to VSCode, so it pretty much won’t bring unique value to the table now or in the future.
It’s actually open source, yes, that’s great, but that’s why I’m using the open build VSCodium and it works nicely. It’s the only reason where I still have hopes it might be interesting at some point, since the majority of the workforce behind VSCode is, of course, Microsoft, the direction it’ll take will always be driven by business, and it does show when the last few months (or more, I don’t remember) the changelogs have been increasingly featuring AI integration updates, to the point a few releases had like 99% of just that, especially Copilot, that I mostly don’t care for. At least some of those include creation of APIs that can be used by other extensions, but still, there’s requested features waiting there that aren’t about AI and for that sole fact they are just put in second place, not taken care of up to years. Perhaps a project with an actually open governance can work more towards what the community cares about, so, personally, I’d give it a few years to try it again and see how it’s come along

Must be gay or European!

I see, thanks, I didn’t know that!

Not American here, but isn’t any structured organisation providing what is essentially a schooling service considered a school? Asking genuinely

It’ll make you fast as well once the IRS catches up

I always stay away from trees

AHHH, please trigger warning

Feels like some arcane divination magic, I WANT IT

I wish there was something like that for SQL

And my axe

You have to create technical debt specific to your skillset

This, but remove the “else”

…yes, not even the author

I know, but that feels really clunky to me, like an unclean solution, I know that commit will disappear regardless, but I don’t like room for more human error like that by manually re-editing