That was a fun listen. We’ll see where this goes.

I think it’s less “I’m not the target audience” and more if you’re going to do a Star Trek [insert genre/target audience] show, do it right.

It’s certainly possible to create an intelligent pre-school show that isn’t painful for adults to watch. Take Bluey, for instance. Toddlers love that show, but it also has a cult following among the adults that watch it with their kids, and the style doesn’t look like every single other kids television series on the air.

In comparison, Scouts has a cheap-looking generic style I’ve seen before, and the plots we’ve seem are absolutely brain-dead and superficial. Sure, maybe we don’t need the kids to talk at length about the subspace plasma inverter matrix manifolds or whatever, but that doesn’t mean the show can’t be more than just bright colors and barely coherent plots. It just doesn’t do any justice whatsoever to what Star Trek is.

My sister called this an abomination… and she’s the one who sees redeeming qualities in DISCO (I do too, but I think she likes Disco more than me).

From what I’ve read, I agree. This seems to be purely oriented towards iPad babies, which is horrid; these kinds of shows let their child viewers be dumber than they actually are.

I’d much rather have a Craig of the Creek-esque show about a group of kids having fun and going about their lives on a starbase while their parents deal with big Starfleet stuff in the background, hinting at something bigger going on as a mystery for parents and smart kids to solve. The kids never save the entire Federation or something hokey like that; at most, we have something like a Picard stuck in the turbolift with three children and a broken leg during red alert situation every once in a while.

I like to imagine there’s just another Musk that’s better known in the Trek universe…

Oh, whoops. I guess I made a mistake in the Inkscape export. Guess I’ll fix that eventually.

In Archer’s case, yes.

However, Paris stole directly from the dealership, apparently.

Most aliens have forehead ridges; some, like Tandarand, have giant cheeks. But the humans, they have… pronounced philtrums!

I was actually going through the audiobook of this trying to gather and classify enough data to fine tune a Piper TTS voice of the Star Trek computer.

Haven’t finished it yet, but maybe one day. While I normally would have ethical qualms about commanding the likenesses of the dead, they actually did try to collect voice data before Majel Barrett died; unfortunately, it wasn’t enough to actually pull it off, but the attempt feels as close to consent for this sort of thing as one can get.

I don’t know. There’s something about the description of the ENT novels that rubs me the wrong way.

Painfully true, unfortunately.

This is more a comic/graphic novel than a proper Trek novel, but I think Lower Decks: Warp Your Own Way is possibly the best Star Trek comic I’ve ever read.

It stays true to the source material, and unlike a lot of IDW stuff I’ve read, doesn’t completely shark jump from the source material in an attempt to be mysterious, cool, or interesting just for the heck of it.

Probably the only other piece of IDW Trek I enjoyed this much was the TNG Mirror Universe, which did really well to achieve a “keep me on the edge of my seat” feeling.

I still need to read some other Trek comics, though, especially the TNG/Doctor Who crossover, which a local library branch of mine has. I also have a ton of PDFs from the recent Humble Bundle to burn through.

Are we counting S1 “The Elysian Kingdom”? I know it’s not technically a holodeck episode, but…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IrxKX44qBJ0

I mean, I agree.

Honestly, I don’t think I’ve met more than 2 or 3 people in my life who even had a headset.

In fact, whenever I see a VR headset in a TV show or film meant to depict the present day, it makes it abundantly clear that the writers are well off older people who are going to whine about the youth and are out of touch with how the majority of Americans live their life (or they’re being forced to make these choices by geezer executives that fit my description).

It’s kind of similar to how the 1980s-2000s sitcom archetype of weird hyper best friend has been replaced by the “my whole personality is social media” archetype that is frequent in lower quality media these days.

I know. It seriously just felt like a top tier episode out of the series - the ending is such a tear jerker.

Huh. Maybe I can look into it and see if it’s possible for Trek.

I was hardly the target audience for Lower Decks; in fact, I was a little mad they had made an adult animated Star Trek comedy. However, after watching it, it has become a favorite. Season 1 is a bit difficult to get through, but once you get through that, overall, it’s a show that’s very sincere to what Star Trek is while still being a comedy. And it should have gotten 2 more seasons.

Same with Star Trek: Prodigy: it takes a second, and it’s still technically a kids show, but when it gets there, it’s worth it.

Honestly, I’m half hopeful for the show just because it’s a “We’re going for the {X} demographic” kind of show that sounds a little like a stupid idea that will actually turn out unexpectedly good but get cancelled before its time.

You know what would be really awesome, though? A Cali class MSD!

I think part of it is people are so annoyed with entertainment companies in general that it’s hard to know if you’re worried about something real about the show or you’re just fatigued.

Also, personally, I feel like people have actually been relatively quiet about STA, although maybe it’s just the community I’m in. Personally, with headlines about Robert Picardo’s character being “deeper”, I’m almost certain he’ll be 100% comic relief, and the show may be unexpectedly good, if Star Trek: Prodigy is anything to judge by.

Mostly, I just hope they don’t do the most basic Klingon plot they can think of - I think it would be great if the Qo’nos Klingons were relatively well off post-burn due to a philosophical shift, but they’ll probably have something like they were devastated by civil war after possibly being a Federation member.

EDIT: I mean, almost all of the better newer series have been forays into a genre - LD adult animated comedy and PRO children’s drama. If STA’s trying to aim towards a tween/teen niche, maybe it will also follow that. The only one to break the pattern is S31 somewhat, in the sense it was an action movie attempt, but still within the general sci-fi drama standard of Trek.