You may have missed the point. Even if the haline circulation is over turned with fresh water, Europe will still trend warmer on a wider delta and different places will see an increase in seasonal delta but as it stands there will be a last winter for everywhere. Full stop. It is a time horizon question that remains.

Its complicated day to day but it’s not that complicated. We have a giant heat sink in the form of the arctic ocean. Once its ice free I expect freezing temperatures to be rare. There will be a point where this area(north west north america) no longer sees the 80 degree C swings in temperature that it has seen historically. Expectation is closing the temperature gap biased high.

Had a discussion with the wife about the last winter. That there will be a last winter with meaningfully cold temperatures was something that she had not considered at all.

…Daddy?